Jim Orwin auditioned for the band when it was in the process of being formed by Ian and Dave (with Mick Douthwaite and Brian Wrigglesworth). Dave says Jim was voted in because he was the least psychotic of those auditioning. (Jim has always hidden this very well !) At that point the band didn’t have a name, but it was soon to be christened Rio. Of course, even then Jim was an old man (24, as opposed to Dave and Ian as youthful 17-year-olds)